Singapore urges China to make clear its South China Sea sovereignty claimsPosted: June 23, 2011 Filed under: China-ASEAN, Comment threads, PRC News Portals | Tags: fifty cent party, joint development, phoenix, public opinion, shelving problems, singapore, south china sea 3 Comments
Singapore urges China to make clear its South China Sea sovereignty claims
By Li Zongze (Global Times)
China’s biggest navy patrol boat, the “Sea Patrol 31” is currently visiting Singapore, which has drawn attention from that country’s media and internationally. Singapore’s foreign affairs department released a press statement emphasizing this was a routine visit, and also said China’s position on the South China Sea should be “clearer”, as its present “equivocality” was attracting “the intense concern of the international community”.
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Using China’s foreign policy language all around the world, it’s no wonder they don’t understand! Most of what weak, incapable people say is vacuous! Expand the cave! [Recommends: 5197]
Singapore is right, China should be like a great power that says what it has to say, whose position is clear, if others are encroaching on our territory and we don’t fight back that’s defeinitely just giving face to the encroachers. Wishy-washy words and actions will actually stimulate their appetites and give them a false perception that China is equivocal when it comes to its own territory, that is equivalent to to saying this here is not China’s 那就说明这里不是中国的. You can’t benefit from just compromising – even if China gave away all its land, America and other Western countries would still not compromise, let alone stop their encirclement and isolation of China. As for the talk of Russia supporting Vietnam, Russia should understand this principle: the direct result of China being unable to defeat America was that Russia became the latest target to be cleaned up. 
Singapore is noble, and what they said is pertinent! Clearly demarcate the border activities – doing nothing but talk only makes people more demanding. Russia gave Black Blind/黑瞎子/Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island back to China, so what are Vietnam and the Philippines? Drive them out, don’t fire the first shot, show no mercy to those who resist with weapons, are none of those guided missiles loaded? Lock down all their bases, and whichever one attacks us will be wiped out! If the great power can’t even put these little countries in order, there’s something wrong with the world! 荒天下之大繆 
We Chinese are on one hand saying we have sovereignty over the South Sea, and on the other hand we’re saying shelve differences of opinion and develop together, negotiate and peacefully solve – this is contradictory. Since sovereignty is ours, why would we be jointly developing anything? Jointly developing our own territory encourages other countries to occupy and encroach. Can territorial sovereignty be just given to another country? 
We miss Chairman Mao! 
This is called looking for trouble and ugliness. What is it that you want to do? Do you want to attack or make peace? If it’s attack why are you running from Singapore, if you want peace what are you doing crossing the South Sea, aren’t you picking fights on the basis of the present? 想打，你跑新加坡干什么，想和你干嘛要横穿南海，你这不是在现在的基础上找事 
China, China, you just make people so worried. I really want to give you a kick. 
Singapore clearly explains how “shelve differences and jointly develop” just confuses the international community. History and reality both confirm that shelving differences and jointly developing will cause much dispute and controversy. We must have a complete discussion. Practice is the criterion of truth, and right now not a single neighbouring country recognizes this idea, it’s caused our territory to be encroached upon, so it’s time to completely clear up this problem. If you fear something will happen, something will inevitably happen! 
Could public opinion have had anything to do with that unclear stance? Possibly. If expectations about China’s military prowess really have progressed far ahead of its actual capability, “China” might be doing more there than the CCP central decision-makers ideally want to be doing. This may or may not be decisions to actively respond to public opinion, but they could also be non-actions such as allowing military zealots to dictate policy to appease an intra-party constituency, and/or mass opinion? Could the J-20 stealth fighter mystery also be an example of this? Have leftists within the Party been seriously considered as a force? The recent obsession with “red songs” and other red-era nostalgia suggests that the leftist brand’s popularity (or value) is on the rise. Most comment threads on the South China Sea that i’ve read have included (alongside the calls for action) prominent praise for, and often longing for, Chairman Mao. Perhaps those in charge of the Fifty-cent Party are under the control of leftists. With the mobilization of supportive public opinion, “rightists” in 1978 took over the Party. Leftists today might well believe they have the majority of the Chinese people behind them, and they know only too well how to mobilize support. Could we be witnessing an ideological battle in progress?
Japan and America assert China must stop “blocking” other countries’ South China Sea shippingPosted: June 24, 2011 | Author: Andrew Chubb | Filed under: China-Japan, China-US, Comment threads, PRC News Portals | Tags: Japan-US joint statement, south china sea | 3 Comments
Japan and America assert China must stop “blocking” other countries’ South China Sea shipping
By Zhong Weidong (Global Times Online)
According to a report from Japan’s Kyodo news agency, the governments of the US and Japan on June 21 announced their common strategic objectives, emphasizing “to encourage certain countries to not pursue or deploy military forces that could bring instability to the region”. The report says although the communique did not name the targets of its encouragement but it clearly revealed a posture of restricting the expansion of Chinese military force and joining hands to oppose China.
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At the end of the last post i raised the fanciful-sounding idea that a leftist struggle for power might be in progress within the Party, and interacting with popular opinion, especially online. Unlikely as the idea might seem, the discussion above could possibly be a sign that the 50c Party* has been mobilized in favour of a leftist faction within the CCP in the lead-up to the leadership handover next year. [Disclaimer: if it isn’t already clear, this is pure speculation, but you have to use imagination in hypothesizing the black box…]
* Also not a monolith – there are loads of 50-centers working for a variety of local and central departments.